How to Answer 3rd Wave Feminist Arguments

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Since I launched 4th Wave Feminism nearly a year and a half ago, I’ve had hundreds of debates with 3rd Wavers.  This includes the likes of AronRa, (yes, THE AronRa), Gender Studies Professors, and entire communities that end up having to delete my comments and / or ban me from the discussion because they’ve got no other way to respond.

Throughout these debates, I’ve found that the links I’m about to provide here have held up time and time again, are unassailable, and often times are so effective that they shut down the discussion almost immediately.  3rd Wavers have little else than name-calling to reply back with.  Fair warning – if you start using these, make SURE you save the thread, because you will almost certainly find your comments deleted.

So if you’re wanting to reply to any of the topics that follow, just copy-paste these links into the discussion, and watch the 3rd Wavers go bat-shit.  I’m not afraid of them coming here and trying to answer the source, so the comments on this site are always open, and criticism is never moderated.  You can go through the comments that we have so far, and you’ll see where a few of them have tried – and failed miserably.

Copy-paste these links if you see these topics being discussed:

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Responses to “Patriarchy”
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2016/04/05/the-complete-and-final-resource-on-patriarchy-in-the-us/ – overwhelming evidence AGAINST patriarchy existing in the US.  This is the complete response, like the title says.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/08/08/patriarchy-theory-explained/ — What patriarchy actually is, when it existed, and where it existed.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/patriarchy-a-response-to-everyday-feminsim/ – a point by point response to patriarchy asserted as “a system of rich white men rule everything” (literally, that’s the definition given by Everyday Feminism).
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/patriarchy-a-response-to-marinashutup-feminist-fridays/ – a point by point response to patriarchy asserted as “A system in which masculinity is valued over femininity”.
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Responses to the “Wage Gap”
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/the-wage-gap-myth-explained/ – an explanation of what the wage gap really is, and that it’s not caused by sexism or sexist discrimination. (It’s real – it’s just not caused by those things)
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/what-if-the-wage-gap-myth-were-true/ – a thought experiment demonstrating just how wrong the wage gap myth really is.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/04/27/the-new-york-times-and-the-wage-gap-myth/ – an example of blatant dishonesty regarding the wage gap in the New York Times.
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Responses to “Privilege”
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/what-is-privilege/ – what privilege actually is, and how most things are not privilege.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/a-reponse-to-the-male-privilege-checklist/ – male privilege does not exist. This refutes most of the most commonly cited examples.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/06/04/these-25-examples-of-female-privilege-from-a-trans-womans-perspective-really-prove-the-point/ – a response to a post supposedly made by a “trans man” (it’s most likely rehashed nonsense posted by a 3rd Waver simply making that claim)
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Responses to “Objectification” and “Harassment”
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/for-men-sexual-harassment-and-objectification-how-do-they-work/ – illustrates how most claims of harassment are subjective and false.
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Responses to Rape Culture
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/a-response-to-rape-culture-part-2of5/ – The idea of rape culture is not only wrong, it is *SO* wrong, and *SO* divorced from reality, that it required a 5 part series just to respond to. Use the “Next” and “Previous” links at the top to go back and forth between each of these.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/why-are-rape-kits-getting-backlogged/ – Explains a few simple reasons why rape kits are backlogged, as detailed in a 2011 report from the Justice Department.
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Responses to Feminism in general
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2014/08/15/what-is-feminism/ – Explains what feminism is, the different kinds of feminism, and why everyone hate the modern version. 4th Wave Feminism (the site you’re reading now) is an attempt to rescue feminism, and turn it back towards legitimate issues.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/does-feminism-empower-women/ – Shows how 3rd Wavers keep women in a state of perpetual victim-hood, and that it is *not* empowering to women.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/04/16/is-feminism-a-religion/ – Demonstrates that 3rd Wave Feminism is a faith based movement with no evidence supporting it’s claims.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2014/10/30/mental-health-vs-3rd-wave-feminism/ – explains how 3rd Wavers are, from a mental health standpoint, delusional.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/11/24/science-vs-story-telling-how-do-you-know-whats-actually-real/ – Provides a walk-through explanation on the difference between rational inquiry by way of science, and story-telling by religion and 3rd Wave Feminism.
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Responses to Cultural Appropriation
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/11/06/a-response-to-cultural-appropriation-yes-to-the-entire-theory/ – Point by point response to examples of Cultural Appropriation, explaining why this isn’t really a thing.
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/answering-amandla-stenberg-dont-cash-crop-on-my-cornrows-2/ – A response to a popular youtube video on Cultural Appropriation.

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Responses to Capitalism / Class Structure
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https://4thwavers.wordpress.com/2015/08/01/a-response-to-everyday-feminisms-7-reasons-why-class-is-a-feminist-issue/ – While this topic is not as common, it may still come up in a debate on occasion.  Explains why capitalism is not an inherently evil system, and why class structure is not automatically a bad thing (I’m a socialist, by the way, so don’t bother going there).

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Let me know in the comments if you find these useful, and also tell me what topics you would like to see responses to.  These posts usually require a few days of research at least, and usually a day of carefully constructing them so they’re “counter-argument” proof.  Because they take so much time, from here on, I’d like some feedback from the community on what you would like to see on this site.

Some ideas I’ve had recently:

— The Academy Awards does not “lack diversity”.

— Fat Shaming is bad, but being fit is not “unrealistic”.

— How to tell the difference between social narratives and social science.

Any takers on these?  Or do you have any ideas of your own?

Let me know!