What Is Feminism?

It’s better if we define our terms right from the start. Yes, I know there are lots of different flavors of feminism… but we don’t need a definition more complex than what is useful for the discussion, so long as essential information is not lost for the sake of simplicity.

You may be familiar with the No True Scotsman logical fallacy (for a refresher, click here: http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ ).

When we talk about “radical Islam”, some apologist will literally turn the No True Scotsman argument into their first and foremost tool against every single argument. We have two Muslims in a room. Anytime one of them does something we don’t like – ah, that’s radical Islam! What’s even more disingenuous is that either one can start or stop being a radical Muslim from minute to minute, depending on what he’s doing and whether or not we like it.

To fix this, there are two things we need to do.

First, we need to create a clear set of definitions and boundaries that define what we consider “radical” ahead of time, with an acknowledgement that “radical” does not necessarily have to include “a fringe minority”. Radical Christianity – the kind that launched 12 or so different Crusades across Europe – was the mainstream religion of that area for centuries. “Radical” can most certainly be “mainstream”. So back to our Muslims, we need to lay down an understanding of what we would consider “radical” before we know anything else about them, and then not continually change what we mean as time goes on.

Second, we can’t take a person at their word. If a person representing a group tells you that group is all about peace and love, then detonates a bomb in a crowded subway, we judge the group for their actions completely irrespective of their word. Why? Because people can lie. That’s why. Any and all terror groups can easily just say “Yea what we really want is peace”, but those are just words. This can get a bit tricky, and it can be easy to conflate Muslims living in Malaysia and Singapore – which are two of the most peaceful countries on earth – to Muslims living in Syria, simply because they both have the same undifferentiated name: “Muslim”. But if we’re being honest, we know the difference between radical and moderate. You have the understanding of which is which, and can easily identify either side.

The final thing we need is to understand that a few exceptions do not disprove the entire rule, and thus make it utterly impossible to distinguish either side. This is a common apologist tactic: “Not all of my group is like that, so it’s impossible for you to say which is which and you’ll just have to take my word that we’re all perfectly good!” I’m sure somewhere in the world you can find a KKK member who says “We’re not anti-black, we’re only standing up for the rights of whites!” (In fact this is precisely the message that group adopted in the early 70s in an attempt to rebrand themselves and appeal to a new generation.) Refer back to rule number 2, and keep in mind that a genuine exception doesn’t then make it impossible to discern what a group stands for based on their actions.

And with that, lets begin.

Feminism can be divided up into 4 different “waves”.

The Different Waves of Feminism

First Wave Feminism lasted from the late 1700s until the early 1900s.  In an era where women were viewed as nothing more than property, the First Wave smashed this notion wide open, and did what was considered unthinkable for the time.


– Allowed women to own property
– Allowed women to work
– Allowed women to vote

The focus of the First Wave was that women deserved the same rights as men.  It was defined by works such as Mary Wollstonecraft’s “A Vindication of the Rights of Woman”, in which she discussed that women should be entitled to an education, and that women were inherently valuable to the nation.

Is everyone on board with this so far?  Great.  No one disagrees with the assertions put forth by First Wave feminism – neither in their doctrine, their stated beliefs, or their actions.  Even the most dedicated MRA advocate would not disagree that women should have these rights, because after all, women are people too.

Second Wave Feminism stretched from the early 60s to the 80s.  If First Wave feminism was impressive, the Second Wave was nothing short of spectacular.


blablabla– Spread awareness about abortion issues, and gave women reproductive rights
– Spread awareness and advocated against rape crimes, set up rape crisis centers, lobbied for more sensitive treatment of victims
– Defined and campaigned against sexual harassment, making it illegal
– Lobbied against spousal abuse, and helped pass stern laws against domestic violence
– Outlawed gender discrimination in education and other places.
– Allowed women to divorce
– Established women’s shelters
– Established women’s clinics
– Established women’s resources to aid against domestic violence and women’s issues
– Drastically changed expectations of women in society; made it socially acceptable for a woman to be a doctor or lawyer
– Creation of childcare services
– Created maternity leave
– Ensured women were paid the same as what men are paid
– College funding for women and women’s studies
– Founded the National Organization of Women (NOW)
– Changed college curricula so it included female authors
– Promoted the use of the term “Ms”, to allow identity that was not contingent upon being married or not.
– And much, much more.

Second Wave feminism wasn’t just focused on merely adding a few extra rights for women. It helped established total equality for women and completely knocked down barriers women had in domestic and professional life.  By the time it was over, women not only had access to all rights and privileges men had, they were left with multiple advantages that men didn’t!

So, are we still all on the same page?  Once again, no one disagrees with anything that was done here.  And again, even the most staunch MRA supporter does not disagree that women should have access to woman-centered health care, nor do they argue with women having equal protection under the law.  So far I hope you’ve all enjoyed happy-agreement time, because things are about to get batshit insane, and this is where the problem comes in.

Third Wave Feminism began in the early 1990s, and is currently what we see today.  By this point, feminism had already established equality between men and women, and would have done superbly well to act as a watchdog group and ensure things remained that way.  But that’s not what happened.

Instead, the Third Wave changed direction completely, and began focusing on victimizing women and criminalizing men.  They do this by completely misrepresenting facts, twisting truths, and perpetuating myths they know are wrong, but did it anyway to fit their agenda.

Here are some examples of what Third Wavers engage in:

Re-interpreting history through the narrative that fits their agenda: that women have always been oppressed by men, simply because they are women, and because men are men.  Both Merlin Stone and Riane Eisler do a fantastic job at explaining why this is false, as would virtually any school curriculum history book.

– Interpreting the actions and behaviors of men through the narrative of their agenda, and disallowing for any other possible motives or explanations.  See: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/12/robot-hugs-sexual-harassment-comic_n_5671532.html .  If you talk to a woman, she gets to decide if it’s harassment.  And if it’s harassment, then you’re automatically behaving the way you are because you believe you’re entitled to her body.  The Third Wave narrative decides what men, as a group, think and feel, and what their motivations are.  If this were being done by whites towards blacks, by theist towards atheist, or by men towards women, it would be totally unacceptable.

– Perpetuate the myth of “rape culture”.  See: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/11125819/ex-oregon-ducks-basketball-players-accused-rape-suspended-students.  These three young men had their entire lives and careers ruined forever based on an accusation of rape, not a conviction.  Because putting them on trial would have required cross examination and questioning of the accuser, which Third Wavers will claim is part of “rape culture”.  Also see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KQQ1bzQn0k

– Perpetuate the idea of a misogynist culture which simply does not exist.  See: http://images.dailykos.com/images/86145/lightbox/1095.png?1401243737.  Consider that this is depicting an “average joe”, and we’re given no other prompting to believe there’s anything at all dangerous about him, but the woman believes he’s possibly a rapist and killer *anyway*.  Tell me again how feminist don’t think all men are rapist?

Of course not all feminist think think this way.  “Not all feminist are like that!” – which is entirely true.  First and Second Wave Feminist really aren’t like that.  They focused on equality for women, not on attacking men.

– Added to the point above, also see http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/88/59/e4/8859e48bec39562ba6eff6a9e4e2c582.jpg – and please show me one example of any major publication anywhere in the first world, where the topic of rape was reported, and the question was asked “what was she wearing”, or the claim was made “She was asking for it”.  Because the only time we ever hear either of those things being said – is from Third Wave Feminist.

– Conflate everything men do into rape, by changing and mixing the definitions generally accepted as rape (a man forcefully having unwanted intercourse with a woman) with abstract theoretical concepts of “power” and “control” (see http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2013/08/29/rape-and-power/ ), allowing situations where a man can “rape” a woman without even touching her.  This is very damaging for actual rape victims, since it causes people to doubt their claims.

– “Men think about sex every 7 seconds”.  Where do you think this came from?

– Continue to claim that women are paid less than men, or that women have a “glass ceiling” in the corporate world as a go-to point, even when this has been thoroughly debunked, not unlike a creationist continuing to use “just a theory” as a go-to point.

– Openly accepts, and even celebrates, violence against men.  See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRCS6GGhIRc.  Also see http://law.jrank.org/pages/3594/John-Wayne-Lorena-Bobbitt-Trials-1993-1994-Lorena-Bobbitt-s-Trial-Begins.html .

From the link:

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Autographed John Bobbitt T-shirts were selling for $25, all proceeds going to the defense fund. A restaurant offered a Bobbitt Special—a hot dog with French “cut” fries.
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Imagine for a moment a woman being mutilated, and having her breasts cut off – then men enjoying jello domes, and handing over the profits to the “defense”.  This would never be accepted – while the reverse is perfectly fine, and yet somehow we live in a patriarchy that oppresses women?

– Openly laughs at violence against men.  See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRa3yQVtV2g.  It’s funny until men get hurt.  Then it’s hilarious!

– Promotes clothing that celebrates and embraces violence towards men.  See http://www.lookhuman.com/render/product/0002/0002007566406404/2329ind-w800h800z1-33890-i-bathe-in-male-tears.jpg.  How far down the street would you get wearing a shirt that said that about women?  Hell, you’re not even allowed to wear a shirt that has women ON it, much less anything at all even slightly offensive about them.

Keep asking yourself: Would First or Second Wave feminist do any of this???

– Enforces a double standard, which by now I hope is clear, and is in favor of women, NOT men.  Yet Third Wavers push the idea that men somehow have “male privilege” (which they don’t), while ignoring and outright denying that women have “female privilege“.

– Claim that it’s only sexist when men do it.  See http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/sexism-definition/ – an entire convoluted round-about out-of-the-way mental-gymnastics-routine is being done here to justify why sexism against women is wrong, while women just can’t be sexist against men.  Instead, we could be saying “sexism is wrong regardless of who it’s aimed at” – but that wouldn’t work because equality is not part of the Third Wave agenda.

If a woman is fat, she's a whale. That's objectifying. But if a man is poor, then he's a bum, and that's not objectifying?

If a woman is fat, she’s a whale. That’s objectifying. But if a man is poor, then he’s a bum, and that’s not objectifying?

– Claim that only women are sexually objectified (and men aren’t), and have it to where *any* expression of male sexual interests in women is a form of objectification.  According to the Fox News of social science, when women objectify men, that’s just “sexual desire” – and of course it’s only objectification when men do it.  This goes back to the earlier point that the motivations of men are defined by women as they see fit; it can’t be that you’re simply a straight guy who likes beautiful women.  Instead, you’re an oppressive part of “the patriarchy” that’s objectifying them (unless you’re tall, handsome, and rich – in which case, you’re fine).

– If you’re a man, you can’t even sit down somewhere without being at fault somehow.  And this isn’t about taking up other seats either – if you signal you’re about to sit next to the guy, he closes his legs and gives you room.  I can board any bus anywhere in the city of Portland and prove that over and over again 100% of the time.  Yet this is called an “expression of dominance” by men who are of course an oppressive part of the “patriarchy”.  Yesterday, a woman in Saudi Arabia was stoned to death for being a woman… but in America, a man sat with his legs spread (which is an actual Third Waver argument I’m not making this up).

– I mentioned “patriarchy” twice now with quotes each time.  Click here, and especially here (scroll down a bit) to find out why.

– If you’re a man and you’re in charge of a small business, or you find yourself in middle management, then you might have been called a fat piece of sh*t more than once.  You’ve probably been told to f*ck off, go to hell, had all sorts of nasty passive-aggressive things said behind you’re back, seen some interesting things written about you on social media, and of course heard rumors that your head is interchangeable with other parts of your anatomy.  But call a woman “bossy” even one single time……………

The Average Feminist Today

Your average supporter of women’s rights probably does not support any of the crazy coming out of the Third Wave. They probably just believe that men and women should be equal. That’s it. But lets not pretend that modern feminism (the 3rd Wave) is just as benign, or that it follows that kind of thinking, or try to dismiss the parts of the movement we don’t like as “a few fringe radicals”. The above examples, and the ones still to come, are fully endorsed and often promoted by hollaback, upworthy, and everydayfeminism.com, which have millions of followers supporting them. CNN, the Huffington Post, and MSNBC routinely broadcast that women aren’t paid as much as men for the same work, when there is no truth to this claim. 3rd Wavers like Anita Sarkesian have appeared on The Colbert Report. Jon Stewart and John Oliver routinely parrot their claims. Rebecca Watson can claim oppression from the patriarchy because someone asked if she wanted coffee; this proceeded to cause a severe disruption in the atheist community. Laci Green has a videos with over a million views that are dedicated to the 3rd Wave narrative. Jessica Valenti is a major author and blogger for the movement, and routinely appears in online news publications such as thenational.com. These aren’t just a few radicals. They are the movement!

Most of the big names in feminism today support actions outlined above, or at the very least, refuse to speak out against them, while selectively picking out and attacking social issues that involve men as perpetrators. The “women are people too” is the philosophy was believed in, and practiced by, the previous waves. When you look at both their words and their actions, then it becomes clear.

The 3rd Reich Wave gains its strength by deliberately confounding their motives with the accomplishments of their predecessors.

4th Wave is an attempt to shift the focus back towards legitimate women’s issues.  And a big part of that is refuting 3rd Waver myths.

That’s my sincerest hope with this site.  Women do actually have a number of legitimate issues that are not necessarily “equal rights” related; such as access to women’s health care, administrative failures during actual rape trials, maternity leave, and so on.  Some women’s issues – such as the continual disempowerment and victim-enabling mindset of women – is being perpetuated by the Third Wave, and I think it’s best that another wave of feminism (the Fourth Wave) focuses on reversing that.  Responsibility is not a burden – responsibility is empowering!

In the ideal world, MRAs would focus on men’s issues, Fourth Wave Feminist would focus on women’s issues, and together we would strive for the benefit of all.


The Female Privilege Checklist

Behold: The female privilege checklist!

Gentlemen, feel free to link the HELL out of this.

To find out if you’re experiencing female privilege, ask yourself the following:

1. Do you experience other people paying for your dates, or occasionally even picking up the tab in non-romantic settings? Or paying for your vacations when the relationship advances?

2. Do you occasionally experience subservience and deference being volunteered to you by the opposite sex (opening doors, giving up a seat in the bus, standing up when you come in the room)?

3. Are you able to pursue what you are interested in at university without much societal pressure on “breadwinning” – although you could also take that route if it so interests you?

Female-Armor4.a. Have you never been required to register for selective service? Would you never be ripped away from your daily life and forced to defend your country in time of attack or national emergency? Can you demand strength and full participation in society, but then get out of this obligation by pretending to be weak (but only when it suits you)?

4.b. Can you come up with any and every excuse to get out of the draft without being laughed at?

4.c. Can you say “Men start wars” and completely ignore the fact that most wars have extremely complex socio-economic and political causes that are often difficult to summarize?

5.a Will you statistically get a much lighter sentence for exactly the same offense if you commit a crime?

5.b Do you have special legal excuses for your sex alone which often allows you to get off the hook for the crimes you commit? Are judges usually more lenient, protective and paternalistic when it comes to dealing with your sex?

5.c Are you 25 times more likely to have your death sentence canceled?

6. Are you able to take on a job or choose a career route that is only capable of supporting yourself, with no thought to preparing for a spouse/children, although you are also free to choose a more difficult career that will bring you more money? Do you not have much pressure on you with regard to this?

7. If you are in a committed relationship, do you have much greater flexibility to choose whether you want to work or simply stay at home (even without kids)?

8. Will you not be called an unemployed loser if you decide to be a homemaker?

9. If you have a flat tire on the road, if someone is harassing you in a public place, if an animal attacks you, or if you are lost, will someone be much, much more likely to step-in and assist you?

10. Are people generally much nicer to you in public? Are you sometimes given privileged treatment or better customer service?

11 Do you get first dibs on a lifeboat when your ship begins to sink?

12.a. Are you much more capable of simply marrying rich and getting wealth and support that way?

12.b. Are you statistically much more likely to be given money in a divorce – sometimes huge amounts – even if your behavior caused the divorce (e.g. affair) and even if you didn’t work for the money?

12.c Is custody of your kids almost automatic after divorce, regardless of your parenting abilities? On top of this, do you have the ability to make false accusations of rape or child abuse in order to help you gain custody? Is it possible for you to deprive your child of his or her other parent in violation of court orders without serious consequences?

13.a If you hit or slap a person – or even knock someone’s tooth out throwing your Aunt Selma’s Christmas mug at that person – is it much more likely to just be viewed as cute, understandable or not a problem?  Or hell, maybe even “he deserved it”?

13.b If you are ever physically, emotionally, or sexually abused by in any way, are there dozens upon dozens of organizations that are specifically in place to fight for you and house you when necessary? Do you have the ability to have someone taken-away by police if you make a false or exaggerated accusation of abuse?

13.c. Can you freely accuse anyone who disagrees with any of this as being a misogynist rape-apologist MRA scumbag – as if that automatically wins the argument – and never ever have to bother with researching counter arguments?

14.a Do you statistically live much longer – possibly due to less stress on you with regard to breadwinning, providing protection, being responsible, not having society viewing you as “expendable” or not having society viewing your problems as being unimportant? Can you blame the earlier deaths of the other gender on their stupid behavior or bad genes?

14.b Are you about 20 times less likely to die or get injured in your workplace?

15. Do you have much more money spent on your health concerns in reality (e.g. 5 times as much on breast cancer as on prostate cancer – although they have roughly the same death rates) while you simultaneously claim that more care has to be taken for your needs?

16. Are you much less likely to be homeless? Is more offered to you by society when you are in this position?

17. Is there far less scorn and pressure on you by society when you are an irresponsible goofball? Are your default rates for payment of child support roughly twice those of the other gender, while you simultaneously complain about the other gender not paying?

18.a Has whining about and hating the other gender actually been made into a course of studies in college- as opposed to the true, neutral, unbiased study of this topic – which is simply anthropology?

18.b Can you tell everyone that your sex is the superior sex without you being called sexist?

18.c Can you ignore the fact that your sex’s traditional gender-roles would not place you into situations where you’d be likely to be forced to do immoral things and then use the results of this as evidence that your sex is morally superior?

19.a. Do you have full opportunity to pursue what you want in life – become a doctor, a lawyer, start a business – while simultaneously using the fact that many of your gender don’t CHOOSE themselves to do these things as an argument to try to gain even more advantages?

19.b. Can you actually get congress, and even the president, to then pass laws making it easier for you to get work when you simply weren’t working as much to begin with?

20.a Can you manipulate the other gender with sex in some cases to get what you want? Can you pretend like you don’t even know what anyone is talking about when confronted on this?

20.b Can you use your sex appeal to get-ahead on the job? Can you knowingly dress provocatively but act shocked if someone treats you provocatively?

20.c Do you also have the ability to accuse people of sexual harassment for any reason, factual or not? Do you make up the definition of ‘sexual harassment’, and can this definition change depending on the person and whether you like them or not?

21. If you take a job that is traditionally taken by those of the opposite sex, will you be thought of as a brave pioneer by many? Will no one call your sexual orientation into question?

22.a Can you complain that the clothes, shoes, hair, grooming items etc. for your sex are more expensive than those of the opposite sex without ever noticing that the varieties, styles and complexity of those products are often greater than those of the opposite sex? Do you have far more retail space devoted to your shopping desires than does the opposite sex?

shoes on sale22.b. Can you ignore the fact that your gender has plenty of clothes that are just as affordable as the opposite sex, but that you CHOOSE to purchase that 300 dollar purse?

22.c. Can you wear the clothes traditionally associated with the opposite sex without running the risk of getting beat-up or ostracized?

23. Can you manipulate using old notions of men protecting women when it comes in handy?

24. Can you indulge your sexual curiosity for the same sex without having your heterosexuality questioned?

25. Can you openly show insecurity and weakness, and act in an overly emotional manner without being derided or accused of acting inappropriately for your sex?

26. Do you get in trouble at school less, even for the same behavior as the opposite sex?

27. Generally speaking, regardless of your level of attractiveness, can you attain sex and/or relationships with far less effort on your part?

28. Do tears help you in getting your way instead of getting you called a wimp?

29. As a child, were you told that you are beautiful, cute and sweet, and allowed to hug teddy bears all the way up until you were 25 without ever being screamed at to grow the f* up?

30. Can you get sympathy if you don’t work and don’t have children by listing all the household chores you have to do, while simultaneously calling your sister’s husband who stays home a worthless bum whom she ought to leave?

31. Can you claim that your sex’s work “never ends” while your sex also, on average, watches more television in every time-slot than members of the opposite sex?

32. Can almost any remark by your partner be construed as verbal abuse if you want sympathy, but the meanest, nastiest, most humiliating things that you can say simply involve “speaking your mind” and “some people just don’t want to hear the truth”?

33. Can you use the fact that gender roles were differentiated long ago – with different advantages/disadvantages for both genders – to try to induce guilt today in people who had absolutely no connection with any of that? Can you say that you have been discriminated against for thousands of years with a straight face when you’re only 20 years old? Can you even make things up about history and no one will really check or dare call you on it?

34. Can you propagate myths and outright lies (domestic violence, rape statistics, wage gap, etc) that nobody has a right to question?

35. Can you rationalize your own failures using the concept of the “patriarchy”, and blame the other gender for nearly everything that goes wrong in your life – while failures of the other gender are just … failures?

36.a. As an infant, would amputating a piece of your genitals be a crime? Would not cutting your genitals be considered a basic human right to which you are entitled?

36.b. Can you use female genital mutilation as an example of how your gender isn’t respected, even though FGM is a crime in damn near every civilized nation in the world, and that absolutely no one in any modern country is okay with it?

37. Can you choose to work fewer hours at less dangerous jobs, then complain about the “wage gap” when your gender earns less at the end of a year?

38. Can you get irritated about generalizations and stereotypes of your gender, then turn right around and generalize and stereotype the opposite gender?

39. Can you get irritated about old-fashioned restrictive attitudes towards your sexual behavior, while insulting men who engage in the same liberal sexual behavior you think you should be entitled to?

40. Do you reserve the right to call anyone “sexist” for any reason, based upon your own definition of the term? Is your sexist behavior never noticed?

41. Are you able to charge your partner for child support after a pregnancy which you refused to abort, even if in the intercourse your partner was using protection and you weren’t, or convinced your partner to not use protection?

42. Do you have the privilege of making long lists criticizing the privileges of the opposite sex while everyone pretends to not notice your long list of privileges?

Feminist-hypocrisy43. Do you have the privilege of blaming your privileges on the opposite sex?

44. Do you have the privilege of dishonestly insisting that you don’t have any privileges?

If you answered ‘yes’ to any of the above, then you may enjoy female privileges! But don’t let on – because you can always gain much much more by insisting on your powerlessness and continual victim status!

The Wage Gap Myth Explained

(Update: thanks to some persuasive criticism from Free Thinking Atheist Females, which you can find here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1558638774398805/ – I’ve decided to link directly to the studies mentioned below.  Probably should have done so earlier, but anyway, they’re linked now.  So enjoy!)

3rd Wave Feminist claim that women earn only 77% of what men earn for the “same work”, and that this wage inequality is yet another result of a male driven patriarchy that serves men and oppresses women.

3rd Wavers say the darndest things!

The wage gap has been one of the mainstay arguments of feminist for a while now.  It’s also one of the few arguments that I’ve always accepted, with a defeated shrug, probably like men do when they hear this, thinking “Okay, yea, that’s a problem then and needs to be fixed” – then proceed to stand there with nothing to say.  In fact, the wage gap argument – in my experience – is usually the very first point that most feminist bring up whenever there’s an argument on women’s issues.

I’ve always just resigned myself to thinking they had a point… that was of course before I actually did the research.

To be clear, the “wage gap” is NOT the case of female employees being paid less per hour than male employees.  For example if you asked a woman at Wal-Mart what she makes, then asked a man what he makes, they both make the same.  This is true in every field and in every job, from managers to janitors.  Feminist never actually claimed this was how it worked – but usually avoid explaining anything different in case someone does believe that’s how it works, which of course helps their agenda (which is to promote women at the expense of men).

The wage gap is actually the difference in income between a large demographic of men, and a large demographic of women, over a long period of time.  Right off the bat, makes the whole thing sound a lot different, doesn’t it?

Now when measured this way, as it turns out, women actually DO earn an income that’s only 77% of what men make!  So that raises an interesting question.  Why?

Feminist will tell you it’s because men oppress women.  Of course, feminist will *always* tell you that, no matter what.  If you open a door for a woman – that’s insulting.  If you let her open her own door – how dare you, I’m a woman.

But lets look at some real reasons.

Men get paid more because:

1. They are likely to choose jobs that are more dangerous.  Military, loggers, fishers, police, and construction – these jobs are hard, dangerous (fatalities in the fishing industry are 60 times higher than the national average), and more likely to be chosen by men, who have been taught since they were children that their worth comes only from doing, and not from being (you’re emasculated if you don’t earn enough / you’re a bum if you don’t have a job / being a CEO is far better than being a good person, etc).  In fact, fatal occupation injuries in the work force were nearly 6 times higher for men than for women in 2009: http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0009.pdf (page 10).

2. They are more likely to aim for higher paying professions, since men are beset with the role of traditionally being a “provider”, and his attractiveness and self-worth are largely defined by how much he makes.  What’s more, the law will often side with the woman in divorce cases (it’s usually men who have to pay alimony and child support).  There are other reasons why men may be pressured to seek higher paying jobs and be unable to settle for less.

3. Adding to the previous two reasons, men are also more likely to take jobs that involve longer hours, weekends, discomfort, and isolation, and not take as much time off work.  Men are also far less likely to work part time than women (keep this one in mind, it comes up again later).  Because if a woman is feeling tired, it’s ok if she lies down.  If a man is feeling tired, he needs to be a man and just keep working.  This is echoed in how certain organizations make rather obvious allowances for women – like the US army allowing different physical requirements for women, and even allows them to do knee pushups instead of regular pushups in physical fitness tests (even when events like the Miss Fitness Olympia competition very clearly demonstrate that women are capable of extreme high-end performance athletics involving one-armed pushups, handstand pushups, flips, split jumps, etc – yet women are still catered to and have a considerably different standard of expectations).

4. The wage gap is the exact opposite when we compare unmarried women who do not have children against men who fit the same description.  When this is the case, women actually earn more.  In fact, according to information from the Census Bureau, in 2008 young unmarried women earned 8% more than did men across the majority of US cities.  In Atlanta, women earned a whopping 121% of what men did.  According to the American Enterprise Institute: “An analysis of more than 50 peer-reviewed papers, commissioned by the Labor Department, found that the so-called wage gap is mostly, and perhaps entirely, an artifact of the different choices men and women make—different fields of study, different professions, different balances between home and work”.   You can find a compilation of those studies here. (Update: 9/4/2016 – this source has moved at least 3 times over the last year, no idea why.  If this link doesn’t work, leave a comment and I’ll go hunt it down again.)

5.  Women business owners typically make less than half of what male business owners make.  Now, why is that?  Think about it for a moment.  These are business owners, so there’s no male privilege patriarchy evil spy working in the payroll department who sits at his computer and devilishly looks to the left and then to the right, twirling his mustache with an evil grin, just before secretly clicking his spreadsheet to reduce a woman’s salary just because she’s a woman (and somehow this is legal and happens everywhere and goes totally unnoticed – oh, except by feminist).  So why do women business owners make less than men?

It might be partly be from attitudes like what we heard from feminist like Kate Bornstein in Gender Outlaw – that capitalism is all about greed, money, power, and male privilege.

Of course, capitalism is *actually* nothing more than a system of economics wherein profits are reinvested towards the means of production and distribution, to produce a greater supply towards an increasing demand.  That’s it.  That’s all capitalism is and nothing more.  But if your view is that making a profit automatically = greed, then chances are, you’re going to end up making less than what your male counterparts make if they don’t buy into the same ideology.

I’m not saying all women think this way, but I am saying that in general, women are more likely to choose things other than purely making a profit – which is of course perfectly fine.  There’s no fault at all if you run a gift shop with an emphasis on a work-life balance, store hours that fit your schedule, with a business model that focuses on personal comfort and spending time with your girlfriends.  You’re free to do that.  But you can’t turn around later and complain when someone else is making more than you.  If making money was important (watch out – that’s greed!), then you’d be doing it.

But what about the research that says women are earning less than men?

One study published for the White House Council on Women and Girls has been quote mined by feminist, and states that women make less than men, yet surprisingly, this same report actually tells you some of the reasons why.wage-gap-gender-gap-300x225

You can find the report here:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/Women_in_America.pdf .

Some quotes from the report:

*** ”Yet, these gains in education and labor force involvement have not yet translated into wage and income equity. At all levels of education, women earned about 75 percent of what their male counterparts earned in 2009.

^^^ So yes, we’ve heard that one before.

*** ” Women who live alone have the lowest median income of any type of household, including households with only a male who lives alone. Similarly, households headed by women with other relatives but no spouse also have lower income levels than households headed by men with other relatives but no spouse. Married-couple households have higher levels of household income relative to their non-married counterparts.

^^^ Ok, so women definitely earn less it seems.

Lets keep going:

*** “Changes in household and family structure, including a rise in female householders (with and without children), also have contributed to higher poverty rates for women.

^^^ I love the way this is worded.  “Women being in charge is the cause for women being in poverty”.  Of course if a man’s in poverty, we all yell at him to work harder.  If a woman’s in poverty, well that’s just not fair!

Ok but lets keep going:

*** “Historically, women have been more likely to be poor than men. Poverty rates for unmarried female householders with children are particularly high, and have consistently been two or three times as high as overall male and female poverty rates since 1966.

^^^ So we’ve pretty thoroughly established that women don’t make as much as men.

Although to this particular point, the report doesn’t mention how many women in this demographic may have been in poverty, but were receiving alimony, child support, state aid, charity, assistance from relatives and non-profits, and other sources of support, and compared that to men in poverty who were lucky enough to receive any support at all whatsoever.

Next, we get this incredibly strange U turn, and all these facts and figures start getting explained.  On page 38, under Earnings and Contributions, we see the following:

*** “Despite the trends of recent decades, women remain less active in the labor market than men.

^^^ Presto.

*** “The labor force participation rate of adult women (age 20 and older) was still significantly lower than that of adult men, 61 percent versus 75 percent in 2009. Moreover, on average, women at every educational level and at every age spend fewer weeks in the labor force than do men.

^^^ Remember what I said earlier?

*** “The differences between men and women in labor force attachment are much smaller among those with a college degree or more education.

^^^ So women who are driven to succeed and are willing (and financially able) to attend college are more likely to take more challenging and higher paying jobs?  Huh.  Imagine that.

And it keeps getting better!

*** “In 2009, on the days that they worked, employed married women age 25–54 spent less time in labor market work and work- related activities than did employed married men in the same age group—7 hours and 40 minutes, compared to about 8 hours and 50 minutes.

^^^ So men work longer hours.

And on page 41:

*** “Historically, women have been more likely than men to work part time (less than 35 hours per week). In 2009, 24 percent of employed women (age 20 and older) worked part time, compared to 11 percent of men.

^^^ Scroll back up near the start and read point 3 again, second sentence.  Men are less likely to work part time than women – turns out they’re less than half as likely.

The rest of the report talks about other things, like women’s health, the justice system and so on.

But to conclude, a report published by the CONSAD research group, in conjunction with the US Department of Labour states:

. . . the raw wage gap continues to be used in misleading ways to advance public policy agendas without fully explaining the reasons behind the gap. . . although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action.  Indeed, there may be nothing to correct.  The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of individual choices being made by both male and female workers.

So there you have it.  The wage gap is a myth.  But if we can just get you to believe that it exists and is real, women can continue working jobs that are less dangerous, working fewer hours, and possibly get paid the same as men.


A Reponse to the Male Privilege Checklist

The following is a response to: http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/


Male Privilege.

The idea that men receive certain privileges that women do not.

Growing up, I was told repeatedly by feminist culture that men were slobbering worthless animals that only thought about sex and oppressed women merely by their existence. I never knew how, and have long suspected that this is merely fabricated nonsense meant to fuel the feminist agenda: to promote women at the expense of men.

What strengthened this notion more than ever was the experience of every day life. I went to school in pre-internet Louisiana. If you were a guy, wearing a pink shirt meant you got beat up. It was that simple. If you were a girl, you could wear any colour shirt you felt like. Girls were free to slap and smack guys as much as they wanted, but guys were never allowed to hit girls! That simply was not tolerated. I even remember lectures from teachers about how a guy was simply supposed to “take it” when a girl hits him.Male Privilege war

Boys not only had to be careful what they wore, they had to adhere to a very strict set of southern-male manly macho guidelines. Not liking sports, especially good ol’ football, was enough to place you in suspect for possibly being gay. And being gay meant you wouldn’t last long in any school anywhere in the country, much less in Louisiana.

Though a lesbian girl, now that was HAWT! A girl kissing a girl was cheered for! Everyone loved it! But a guy kissing a guy meant they could both be dead by tomorrow, and the killers would get off easy.

If a boy got sick or injured, he was supposed to just “walk it off”. Be tough. Be A MAN! But if a girl were injured – even slightly – people fawned over her, showing deep sympathy, and offering to do things for her right on the spot. Even other women did this.

Later on, as I went through college and moved out on my own, I saw men applying for jobs and putting absolutely every single thing they had into getting hired. If hired, they then had to put every single thing they had into keeping that job. And if they wanted to move up in that company, they would have to push themselves passed the limit. Meanwhile, I saw women getting hired for the same positions just because they were pretty. And I remember thinking how incredibly unfair that was.

Later still, I would meet lots of men who were homeless, despite putting themselves through school and earning a degree, and doing everything right.

So to put it bluntly, I found the notion of “male privilege” to contrast with everyday reality on an almost schizophrenic level. That is, you would have to have a mental illness to believe in this stuff.

But enough personal anecdotes. What are we talking about when we say “Male privilege”?

According to Wikipedia:

Male privilege refers to the social theory which argues that men have unearned social, economic, and political advantages or rights that are granted to them solely on the basis of their sex, and which are usually denied to women.

If that’s a workable definition, the next best step is to identify real world examples of it happening.

From http://amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/

From here, we see a whopping 46 examples. But before we even get started:

” In many cases – from a boy being bullied in school, to a soldier dying in war – the sexist society that maintains male privilege also does great harm to boys and men.”

^^^ By definition of the word “privilege”, something cannot cause great harm and still remain a privilege.  In fact if you’d like a full breakdown of the concept of privilege, click here.  Me having ice cream when you can’t have any is a privilege for me. But if that ice cream is poison and causes me harm, then by definition, having it is no longer a privilege.

Onward to the examples then. I won’t post and answer every single one of them, as I feel that would be a little redundant and unnecessary; the way I respond to one can carry over to the others.

From the link:

If you are a man:

1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.

^^^ That ain’t how it works. You see a pudgy little man in a dress shirt and tie sitting in a room with an application in his hand. Next to him you see a remarkably beautiful woman. The man doesn’t have the option of being beautiful – he cant put on make up, do his hair, and wear a dress to make himself more appealing (well, he technically can, but lets not get into transgender issues just yet). He’s pretty much stuck and limited to being “presentable”. The woman can make herself more attractive and get hired for the job.

No red herrings please – lets not talk about how that’s objectifying women. The point being made by the page is that men have an advantage in applying for jobs, and they don’t.

As a man, I put in some 200 job applications over a 6 month period, and almost never got a reply. Across two years, this eventually reached somewhere towards the 500 mark. I got only a handful of replies.

As a woman, I put in only 20 or so applications. Nearly half replied, and I became employed within just a few weeks.

2. I can be confident that my co-workers won’t think I got my job because of my sex – even though that might be true.

Isn’t this the exact opposite? You see a sexy woman in a tight dress – THAT’S where you’d think she got the job — because of her sex. Or her gender for that matter.

Yet the author of the page will probably say that’s somehow sexism, and still unfair against women, even though it got her the job.  Yet saying this about a man isn’t unfair sexism, it’s male privilege.

But anyway, who looks at a guy and thinks “Oh he was hired because we need another penis around here”?  No one.

3. If I am never promoted, it’s not because of my sex.

^^^ Women aren’t promoted?…

I’m gonna need to inform my boss of this. Um… she’s a woman.

In fact, nearly half the bosses I’ve had in my life were women.

I mean, it’s very, very, *VERY* common these days to see a woman in positions of leadership. How did that happen? And before we say “but men hold MOST of the positions” – go take a look at my Wage Gap article and find out why.

5. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female co-workers are.

^^^ Men are sexually discriminated against too, just not in the same way.

I remember one very publicized case where a woman was jogging down the street at 5 in the morning, and saw a man walking around naked in his home. She complained to the police about indecent exposure, and the guy got in trouble. Of course, if it was the man jogging down the street and saw the woman naked in her home, then the man would be in trouble *AGAIN*! This time for looking in her house, when she’s naked.

In fact, you can see the story here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRdFf8qtSc

Another fine example is how a woman is free to walk into a sex shop. Because when she does it, she’s a liberated, independent woman who’s just exploring her sexuality.

If a man walks into a sex shop? He’s a pervert, of course.

But in regards to the study that was sited:


(The study):
One particular sexual ethics program directed at football players asks them to write on whiteboards what they do each day to avoid being sexually harassed. Most stand around scratching their heads.

Random women are then brought into the room and asked the same question. Furious scribbling ensues. “I stand at the back of the lift to avoid being pinched on the bottom.” “I sit in the back of the taxi and pretend to be on a mobile phone.” “I always scan the train carriage and try to sit with women.” “I wear baggy jumpers and pants when walking my dog — even in the heat of summer.” And on and on it goes.


^^^ Yes, sometimes women do get creeped out. Like when a bizarre, out-of-place looking guy is acting weird, or he’s trying to follow them. When that happens, sure, you get freaked out, and start taking precautions.

But I don’t know any women, except those suffering from extreme PTSD, who wake up in the morning and go through their entire day in fear, seeing every person around them as a potential threat.  If you do this, I strongly recommend you seek out mental health counseling.  I’m friends with lots of women – none of them go through such routines because they’re scared of being harassed, as if every man is a potential rapist.

6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.

Female privilege^^^ Evidence? Anyone ever see a building built by a woman, and think to themselves that its not so good only for that reason?

I’ve never actually worked at a company, ever in my life, where this was the case. Nobody ever saw a presentation given by a man and thought it was better simply because it was done by someone with a penis. In fact I can remember several times were what the man did was never good enough, but anything the woman did was fantastic.

7. If I’m a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low.

^^^ There’s now a 5 part post explaining exactly and precisely why this is BS, on every single possible level there is to view it from.

10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.

^^^ 3 words: “Dead Beat Dad”. Masculinity and worth as a person are most definitely called into question.

What’s more, the law has traditionally penalized men, not women, when financial burdens fall upon the family.  In the United States, of the 400,000 people currently receiving alimony, only 3% are men. Women are also far less likely to pay alimony or child payments after divorce. That’s an expectation that’s put upon the man.

11. If I have children and provide primary care for them, I’ll be praised for extraordinary parenting if I’m even marginally competent.

^^^ This is because men are typically seen as totally and completely incompetent when it comes to raising children.  We don’t expect men to raise children.  Why?  Because THEY’RE MEN!!!  Imagine if women were seen this way, then praised whenever they did even the slightest good.  That would be sexist against women.

Think back to how many TV commercials you’ve seen with men around the house. The man can do 3 things.

Read the paper.
Watch TV.
Ask for a beer.

That’s it. He rarely does anything else, and if he does, it’s has to be funny somehow. He can’t care about the condition of the house without some implicit humor involved.

Mom, on the other hand, can take care of the kids / answer conference calls / clean the house / pay the bills / go to the bank / do the laundry / shop for school supplies / oh and she’s a doctor / AND a lawyer / damn and she’s going to school! / and how many other things can you name?

Women are like the ultra accomplished 3 time gold medal athlete practicing a routine we’ve all seen. “Good job! Keep it up.” Men are like the special child in the sandbox who’s just earned how to turn the sand pail over. “Ohhhhh how wonderful sweetheart! That’s so good of youuuuu!”

14. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.

^^^ I wonder why that is?

Lets think about this for a second.  A woman wants to run as a state representative.  To do this she needs to get on the ballot.  The people at the ballot office look at her, point, laugh, and go “Ha ha!  You can’t run!  You’re a woman!!!”

I can already hear the 3rd Wavers reaching for their “No it’s more subtle than that!” fall back.

Okay, so then what?  She wants to get on the ballot, and they spend hours trying to convince her not to?  They try to intimidate her?  They make the process more difficult?  No, of course not.  If that happened, it’d be all over the news.

So she gets on the ballot… and then people don’t vote for her because she’s a woman?  Okay, then how do you explain Hillary Clinton?  Sarah Palin?  Elizabeth Warren?  Or all the other female representatives / senators / presidential cabinet members I could name?  Were they pretending to be men, people voted for then after they were elected – “AHA!  Gotcha!  I’m a woman!!” ?

Like all aspects of 3rd Waver theory, this begins to sound ridiculous with even the briefest of rational inquiry.  But then that does leave us with the question – why are most of our elected representatives men?

Here’s why: http://www.iwpr.org/publications/pubs/building-women2019s-political-careers-strengthening-the-pipeline-to-higher-office

This is from the Institute for Women’s Policy Research, a far left leaning FEMINIST organization.  According to the study:

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The money barrier for women candidates running for higher office has three major, distinct aspects – all of which are gendered. The first is learning how to ask. Women do express discomfort or reluctance, but this is one aspect that is overcome readily and early with training. The second aspect is developing a relationship with donors so that if you ask, they will respond. This requires personally meeting them or having an introduction or other connection that matters to both the potential donor and the candidate. The third aspect is having access to good call lists (reliable and untapped donors). This requires more support from the political parties and women’s organizations, as well as experienced officeholders or other power brokers who have developed these lists over time and will share them with selected candidates.

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Said another way: women lack the skills to succeed in running for office.  And this is coming from a FEMINIST organization.

The great thing about “skills” is that they improve if you practice them.  That’s precisely what we would tell any MAN who wanted to hold office but didn’t quite have what it took.  We’d say “less whining, more practicing”.  It’s heroic when a man bites the bullet and puts in the work to develop the skills he doesn’t have, then tries again.  So if women are equal to men, why don’t we empower them the same way?

You can find another study here:

http://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/research/topics/documents/InitialDecisiontoRun.pdf – this is conducted by the Department of Political Science, at Union College, New York.  [Update: Jan 21, 2016 – as is the fluid nature of the internet, the above link has stopped working.  If anyone can find a link that goes to this study, email me at athena.k.brown@gmail.com .  Also let me know if any of the other links aren’t working.  Would greatly appreciate it.]

According to the study:

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The findings clearly show that, across professions, women are significantly less likely than men to have ever considered running for office. And the gender disparity between men and women in each of the professions is remarkably similar; men in each of the professions are more than twice as likely as women to say that they have seriously considered running for office. The survey also asked respondents about their overall level of political participation in such activities as voting, interest group membership, and community involvement. On all of the political participation measures, we found no substantively significant gender differences. Interest in seeking office, then, stands out as the largest gender difference in any area of political participation.

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Look at that!  There are fewer women in office because women choose not to run.  WHO’D OF THOUGHT!

What’s interesting is that this study finds there was no difference at all in men and women’s fundraising ability. That would suggest that the women in the previous study simply weren’t skilled in fundraising. But according to 3rd Wavers, lack of interests + lack of skill = objectified. Because penis.

Also, why are we assuming here that men can’t represent the interests of women? They can’t represent you just because they’re men?? I mean I don’t go to my doctor and tell him he can’t operate on my brain tumor unless HE’S had a brain tumor.  Imagine telling a woman she can’t understand my issues because she’s not a man.  Yea that just wouldn’t fly.

Give me some women’s issues that women are concerned about, then tell me why men can’t represent those interests (assuming of course that we live in a magical world where government actually represents anyone who isn’t a bank CEO or a billionaire).

16. As a child, chances are I was encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters.

^^^ According to the author’s own defense of this point:

It should be noted that the gender expectations put on too many children is not a benefit for all boys. In particular, boys who can’t live up to stereotypical gender role expectations often face emotional abuse from adults and peers, as well as physical abuse from peers.”

I mention a bit on this later, but remember – it’s not a PRIVILEGE if it’s harmful.  Again, if I get all the ice cream I want and you cant have any, I’m the one with the privilege.  However, it’s no longer a privilege if the ice cream is dangerous to have.

More accurately, as a child, boys are taught to take care of themselves because no one else will care for them.  That’s not necessarily a privilege.  This is being reworded for the 3rd Wavers benefit so that it sounds disadvantageous on their part.

17. As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own sex. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.

^^^ Yea. Saturday morning cartoons featuring He-Man. This is definitely a privilege. You’re totally right. We need to do something about that before… um… something happens. I guess.

But lets entertain the argument here, lest any 3rd Wavers jump on me for dismissing it because it’s valid and I’m just trying to weasel out.






Are you sure??? Non-stereotyped???

And there are no female heroes?

Xena? Samus Ayran? Wonder Woman? Black Cat? Kim Possible? She-ra?

I mean those are just the ones that pop to mind right offhand. Put “list of female super heroes” into google and you’ll get http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_superheroines .

18. As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often.

^^^ According to the author’s own cited research:

During the numerous teacher-student interactions that occur over the course of the school day, boys use creative and effective techniques to catch the teacher’s attention. Boys quickly raise their hands to respond or contribute to discussions, wave their hand around and up and down, change the arm they have raised when it gets tired, jump out of their seat and make noise or plead with the teacher to call on them. Girls, however, raise their hand but will soon put it down if they are not acknowledged. As a result, teachers call on boys and interact with them most of the time, while girls’ passive, compliant behavior often means they are ignored.

feminist_hypocrisy3Ok, so… if you got one student who’s JUMPING UP AND DOWN and bouncing in his seat and waving his hand back and forth and going “OOO!! OOO!! OOO!!!” … which student are you likely to call on?  Remember the definition of privilege: for it to count, the teacher must be calling on them because they are boys, NOT because they are actively doing things that the girls could also do in order to get called on.

26. My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring.

^^^ I now have an entire female wardrobe. The cost of the entire thing was around 0 dollars and 0 cents, so there goes your less expensive argument – unless someone is *paying* you to take men’s clothes. What’s more, no one’s forcing you to buy that over-priced designer purse. You can find one at Goodwill, made from the same quality leather for just a few dollars.

Also, my women’s clothes fit better than the mens clothes ever did, and I can even take pics of me wearing my old men’s clothes, then wearing the women’s clothes, and actually show you that they fit better.

30. I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a bitch.

^^^ Right. If you’re a man and you’re loud, you’re called an “asshole”. And if you’re aggressive, it’s called “being a dick”.

31. I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)

^^^ This one is just so completely far departed from reality, that I don’t really where to even begin.

It’s like the author lives in Saudi Arabia.  Violence against women isn’t a general social concern?  The Justice Department HAS AN ENTIRE OFFICE dedicated specifically to violence against women!!!  I don’t see an office for “violence against men!”

In fact, lets look at the numbers.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_298904.pdf – from the United Kingdom’s Office of National Statistics, this shows some mixed information. In some categories, men experience more violence, while in other categories, it’s women.

https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml – from the National Violence Against Women Prevention Research Center, and the University of Missouri, St Louis. Up to 45% of women in lesbian relationships report physical violence. Up to 50% report sexual abuse. Psychological abuse is as high as 90%.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ – from the US National Library of Medicine, and the National Institutes of Health. This shows that women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of cases.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00978098 – from the Journal of Family Violence. According to the study: “Criminal statistics indicate a relatively low proportion of women among violent offenders in the public domain, while in the domestic and/or private domain statistics reflect almost no gender difference in violent behavior.”

http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm – from the Department of Psychology, California State University. This is a meta-analysis (considered the strongest form of analysis in science), indicating that women are just as violence in relationships, if not more violent, than men.

Yet, despite all this, violence against women is given top priority, while violence against men is laughed at. In fact, during the 2015 Grammy Awards, President Obama made a speech, wherein he stated: “Today we can change our culture for the better; by ending violence against women and girls . . . it’s not okay, and it has to stop”. Nothing about domestic violence, which would include both – no, only violence against women and girls is a problem. So to hell with men and boys I guess. In a patriarchy. Where they’re more valued.

This appears to be the consensus in nearly everywhere you look; from newspapers, to scholarly publications and peer reviewed research journals, all the way up to massive, worldwide, global organizations like the United Nations; every voice, everywhere, unanimously denounces violence against women, with a fist-shaking flag-waving sense of holy righteousness.

But hang on.  Is violence against men treated more seriously?  It’s considered a “CRIME”, not a “special interest issue”, right?

Nope. https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/3977researcherwhathap3977

From the link:

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Of the abused men who called domestic violence hotlines, 64% were told that they “only helped women.” In 32% of the cases, the abused men were referred to batterers’ programs. Another 25% were given a phone number to call that turned out to be a batterers’ program. A little over a quarter of them were given a reference to a local program that helped. Overall, only 8% of the men who called hotlines classified them as “very helpful,” whereas 69% found them to be “not at all helpful.” Sixteen percent said the people at the hot line “dismissed or made fun of them.”

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I’m sometimes truly awestruck by how someone can follow the religion of feminism and be so utterly oblivious to actual reality.

32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, etc.

^^^ This is because a thousand years ago, when our language was being created in the caldron of mish-mashed shouting and noises that eventually became English (seriously, look it up), men were the ones with gender roles that involved these vocations. This is ancient history, and has nothing to do with how things are happening today.

And by the way, these vocations often meant working in the fields for 12 hours under the hot sun with no sunscreen or mosquito repellent and hopefully having enough money when the Tax Man Cometh, or being called to war at a moment’s notice and sent to die somewhere in the mud with an axe in your chest.  A woman’s role didn’t involve this, so they sat inside, not working in the fields, or donning armor to fight the enemy.  I know.  What horrible oppression.

Besides, how is this a “privilege”? I mean, how exactly do I benefit from having stuff called “man”? Does it help me go grocery shopping? Save on gas? Get better jobs? What?

Also, if you’re so damned oppressed, how is it that we’ve started changing all these terms just because women wanted it? Chair person, Peace officer, Mail carrier, etc.

38. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks.

^^^ Because… mowing the lawn, trimming the hedges, digging ditches, cleaning the gutter, taking the trash out, paving the driveway, laying bricks, and fixing the yard… yea. Not laborious or repetitive at all.

What’s more, there’s a far greater expectation placed on the man to get a job, whereas the woman has a choice to either get one or stay home. And when the man has a job, he *still* has to do all the chores I just mentioned.

40. If I have children with my wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.

^^^ Can’t help but feel that things like this are nothing more than anecdotal, and are just used for padding the list.

Man: Well sweety, I’m needed around the office. They’re giving me more hours. Looks like you’re gonna have to stay home and look after the kids!

Woman: Okay. 😦

Really… what conversation in modern day America goes like this?

Its more like:

Man: Well sweety, I’m needed around the office. They’re giving me more hours. Looks like –

Woman: (Arms crossed. Foot tapping. And glares.)

Man: … like… I’m… gonna be looking after the kids. Aren’t I.

Woman: You damn right you are! And PICK UP THAT MESS! How many times I gotta tell you so-on-and-so-on-and-so-on.

Now be honest. Which one of these are you more likely to hear?

44. Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.”

^^^ Oh god yes, you’re right. That is SUCH a privilege to not be told to smile.

How does that even look or sound like? According to the author’s elaboration on this point: http://amptoons.com/blog/2004/10/07/smile-damn-you-smile/

If you believe the description here, I’ve never seen anyone do this; stand upon a rock, high above the heads of all, chest out, sword at the hip, cape flowing in the wind – a la The Captain, bellowing out a command upon a hapless little woman who grovels in the sand below him… “I COMMAND YOU… TO SMILE!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!”

I mean read the description there. This is how ridiculous it sounds.

Before I move on to my next point, I’ve been studying Gender Outlaw, by Kate Bornstein (loaned to me by Anna Dawson – thanks so much! I finally have a huge chunk of time each day to read it and take notes).

Kate makes a few mentions of male privilege in her book. On pages 107 and 108:

”Without the structure of the bi-polar gender system, the power dynamic between men and women shatters. People would not have gender to use as a hierarchical framework, and nearly half the members of the bipolar gender system would probably be at quite a loss. They believe (foolishly I think) that the power they have and exert over others is a good thing and they want to hang on to it, they’re terrified of losing this stuff. What I’m talking about is what’s been called “male privilege.”

^^^ Ok, so according to Kate, male privilege holds some very different meaning than what we’ve seen so far. It’s not simply being exempt from certain penalties or having more opportunities – here, we see it being referred to as an actual “power” that you hold over others.

She goes on:

”People ask me what it was like to have had that kind of privilege, what it was like to lose it, why in the world did I give it up. To have it was like taking drugs, to get rid of it was like kicking a habit. I gave it up because it was destroying me and the people I loved.”

^^^ HOLY WOW!!! Ok, male privilege is wayyyyyyyyy more than a few extra opportunities!!! Geez… it’s like a drug??? SERIOUSLY??? It… it gave you So. Much. Power??? … and not just power, I mean for f***’s sake, POWER TO DESTROY PEOPLE’S LIVES!!!

male privilege 2Alright, now this is serious. This is above and beyond any of those things listed earlier. I’m just dying to find out what the hell this male privilege is!

Kate goes on:

”Male privilege is assuming one has the right to occupy any space or person by whatever means, with or without permission.”

^^^ You’ve lost me already. Occupy any person??? Um… yea there’s plenty of zingers there I’m sure. But no, men do not assume they can occupy any person. That’s ridiculous.

Men do not assume they can occupy any space either. You don’t see legions of men everywhere simply getting into cars that don’t belong to them, or entering other people’s houses, “just because”.

But Kate goes on:

”It’s a sense of entitlement that’s unique to those who have been raised male in most cultures – it’s most notably absent in most girls and women. Male privilege is not something given to men in this culture; it’s something that men take.”

^^^ Sounds brutal! Here men are, just… WALKING INTO MODOR, and grabbing hold of this incredible power with drug-like qualities that can destroy their enemies, and no one can stop them! Really it’s Lord of the goddam Rings here…

”It’s not that women don’t have the ability to have and wield this privilege; some do.”

^^^ Those are the evil ones, I’m sure.

And I hate to ruin the flow here, but something can only be a “male privilege” if it applies exclusively to males. Both men and women can drive. Driving isn’t a “male privilege”, it’s simply a “privilege”. So whatever examples we come up with here, it would have to be something *only* men can do, or at least something men can do that women would have a very hard time doing. But back over to Kate:

”It’s that in most cases, this privilege is withheld from them culturally and emotionally. Male privilege is woven into all levels of the culture, from unearned higher wages to more opportunities in the workplace, from higher quality, less expensive clothing to better bathroom facilities”.

Ok. A few things.

1. Men “take” these things? Like… ok, men somehow “took” better bathrooms? They “took” … um… clothing that was less expensive? I covered the higher wages and work opportunities already.

2. Didn’t you just say this was destroying people’s lives? I’m sorry, I was expecting something wayyyyyy more devious than better clothes and better bathrooms. I mean your first examples after a pronouncement like that have really got to be mind blowing, otherwise it’s a real let down.

3. I also addressed the clothing thing earlier, and as someone who used to use men’s rooms, and now uses the ladies room, I can assure you that there is *not* any real difference.

Back to Kate:

”Male privilege extends into sexual harassment, rape, and war.”

^^^ Listen…

Sexual harassment is not a male privilege. If it were, then men would be allowed to do it all the time. They can’t. It’s a crime. In fact, the “sexual harassment” thing, especially back in the 90s, was frequently used as a weapon by women who could simply point the finger at any man they didn’t like and have him fired for “sexual harassment”. I was actually kicked out of a school for this very thing. A group of girls didn’t like me, they pointed at me and said those words, and I was forced out of that school. This is female privilege all the way.

Rape is not a male privilege. It’s a crime. Nowhere in the civilized world will you find anyone, anywhere, who says rape is ok. And these studies that reveal some percentage of college students saying it’s ok are actually asking the students on site “do you think a woman ever owes you sex”, and if the sniffling little life-noob says “yes”, they put that down as him saying rape is ok. But then if they actually asked him that – “do you think rape is ok”, he would of course say no. As anyone would. This is right up there with these insanely ridiculous studies that claim men think about sex every 7 seconds.

War is not a male privilege. War’s often have extremely complex socio-economic and political causes that sometimes stretch back across decade, and are never, ever a “privilege”, especially not for the men who must go off and fight them. Look at some Vietnam veterans, look at the people who have been scarred for life, then tell me what a privilege it is. War being a privilege is one of the most backward things I’ve ever heard.

Kate is utterly brilliant in the rest of this book. I want to make that clear. I’ve been really educated about how gender works, and have been enlightened considerably. But this part about male privilege could not be more wrong if her name were Wrong W. Wrongson and she lived in Wrongsville, Wrongsuri.

”Combine male privilege with capitalism”

^^^ Not even going there. Suffice to say that Kate is just plain wrong on this point, and it’s outside of this discussion anyway.

”… and you have a juggernaut that needs stopping by any means. . . Male privilege is, in a word, violence.”

^^^ Earlier she mentioned clothes and bathrooms and work opportunities… now it’s violence.

On page 110:

”I didn’t “lose” my male privilege so much as I made a conscious decision to get rid of it, and I didn’t get rid of it all at once; it’s an attitude that is insidiously pervasive”.

^^^ Ok, so… I’m even more confused now than I was when we started this. What is male privilege? First it was better bathrooms and better clothes. Then it was war. Then it was violence. Now it’s an attitude?

If that weren’t enough, we get *even*more* crazy examples.

Continuing on the same page:

”Things like leaping up and taking charge, even when it wasn’t called for”

^^^ Someone better call Judge Judy and tell her to lay off with the male privilege. Because no one anywhere ever at all looked at her, and thought to themselves “that’s male privilege”. For some reason, it’s a privilege only when men do it.

”things like using a conversation sledge hammer”

^^^ I’m totally uncertain what this even means… but I’m sure it has something to do with being forceful in a conversation. Because after all, if a girl is nice and polite, well she’s only been taught to act that way from the patriarchy, right? And if she’s forceful and assertive, well it’s male privilege (or it’s perfectly fine for her to do, and is only male privilege if men do it). Either way, men are just always at fault.

”things like assuming that everyone owed me special consideration for my journey through a gender change”

^^^ Wait wait wait… how is that male privilege??? Listen, you’re not even a … I mean that… men don’t… what???

What your describing has utterly nothing to do with male privilege – or even with men at all! Most trans people have trouble adjusting, and figuring out where the boundaries between themselves and everyone else lies. This is pretty normal in transitioning. It’s marvelous that even this is being painted as some terrible thing coming from men.

This goes on and on, with even more bizarre examples and strange twisted logic, but I’ll stop here.

I suppose different feminist will have different takes on what male privilege supposedly is… whether their definitions make any sense or not. So if anyone else out there has a better understanding of what it’s supposed to be, and has some real-world examples, would love to hear them.


In light of male privilege, lets talk for a moment about male disposability. I would like for someone to address how men are privileged when they’re so routinely made worthless and put on the bottom rung, often below and behind women.

chivalry sexismSeats in lifeboats – women first!

Being rescued from burning buildings – women first!

Who gets to eat when there’s not enough food – women first!

What’s more, men being brutally injured or mutilated is often see as perfectly acceptable in our society, and sometimes it’s even celebrated and laughed at.

Clearly, someone is more valuable in all of these cases, and it isn’t the man. For a woman to be valuable, all she has to do is be a woman. For a man to be valuable, he has to be a goddam hero.

And yet… somehow, some way… it’s men who have the privilege.